Talk:Daniel Graystone/Archive 1

Deletion?

Why the delete tag? We have articles for characters from upcoming BSG episodes, like Emily Kowlski and Reza Hebrides, so I don't see why we can't have articles for Caprica ones as well. Ausir 12:57, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

I second that. -- Noneofyourbusiness 14:03, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

Agreed. It's subject to change of course, but is confirmed by two sources so far. -- Serenity 14:07, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

Fourthed. (Is that a word?) If the information changes, we can nuke the article, but so far it is supported by reliable sources. -- Joe Beaudoin ^{So say we all - Donate - Battlestar Pegasus} 14:21, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

Removed, but we should probably cite both these sources in the article. OTW 14:33, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

By the way, since the RDM episodes are written in present tense (regarding information on status as of the last episode), I assume all Caprica info should be written in past tense, even when the show is on air? Ausir 15:27, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

Um, that's tricky, and we have to think of something here, but in general, I'd say no. That's just awkward. They're the same universe, but when reading something about Caprica, I'm reading from that show's POV, which is generally present tense. When including Caprica information into a TNS article, present tense fits though. Or for people who are dead. -- Serenity 16:40, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

Er, you mean past tense for those latter things, right? -- Noneofyourbusiness 16:50, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

But having stuff that takes place both in CAP and 50 years later in TNS in present tense, as well as some of what happens at the same time as CAP in past tense would be even more awkward to me. And some articles, like William Adama and Cylons (RDM) will have information from both shows which will feature them (more or less) equally. Ausir 17:09, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

Well, it depends on where the information is put IMO. In an article that's exclusive to Caprica or an existing TNS article? On William Adama it would naturally be past tense, but I think that reading a Graystone family article or even Joseph Adama (once he appears on the show), one would expect present tense. On the other hands, the genesis on the Cylons on Cylon History may be past tense again (that's where it gets really complicated). It's not really an issue now, but we'll have at least one episode article for Caprica and perhaps many more. And those would be present tense of course. As said, it's tricky, because we already said that the want to keep the (RDM) disambiguation for both series. But at the same time, I think there should be a different tense depending on the POV. Maybe use something like the {{TOS}} template to keep them apart when possible? A solution for William Adama specifically, could also be to create a childhood article that contains only Caprica information. But that doesn't work elsewhere. We'll see. -- Serenity 17:18, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

By the way, in comparison, Memory Alpha uses past tense both for Jean-Luc Picard and for Jonathan Archer - even information from "current" series is written in past tense there, but episode summaries for all series are in present tense. In my opinion it makes sense for all articles except for episode ones to use past tense - especially once BSG is over. Ausir 17:23, 7 April 2008 (UTC)