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==Unrealistic Transfers==
 
I added this text regarding the notion of Gaeta or Tyrol being transferred between Galactica and Valkyrie with Adama back to the article, after [[User:Fredmdbud|Fredmdbud]] removed it:
 
:''This scenario is highly unrealistic, however...''
 
While I readily admit that the content is subjective, I think in its given context and purpose (that is, debunking attempts at fanwanking the discontinuity by altering Gaeta and Tyrol's established histories), it's an important statement. Part of the reason we adopted this analysis in the first place was to avoid the accumulation of fancruft at both the [[Felix Gaeta]] and [[Galen Tyrol]] articles (see [[Talk:Timeline (RDM)#"Hero" Timeline Issues, revisited]]. I feel that to that end, the statement should be allowed to stand. --[[User:Peter Farago|Peter Farago]] 20:57, 6 February 2008 (CST)
 
::Indeed, it is also possible to create a situation of anti-fanwanking, which is to categorically rule out *plausible* scenarios.  Is it unheard of for the guy/gal at the top to "bring along" trusted and key people wherever he or she goes?  How long has Tigh served as right-hand man to Adama?  Cain and Belzen had known each other and worked together for years.  And sometimes its less useful to try to intuit, infer, or out-of-hand dismiss inconsistencies as contrary to what *must* be correct, than to just document and note the inconsistencies and errors, which may or may not be addressed by the ultimate authorities -- the show and its writers.  Sometimes the thing is what it is ... and we are along for the ride.-- [[User:Fredmdbud|Fredmdbud]] 21:13, 6 February 2008 (CST)
 
:::While I would like to agree with you Fred, the fact of the matter is that Adama ''botched'' the mission. As a result (and per Eick's comments from the [[Battlestar Galactica: The Official Companion Season Three|season three companion]]), his assignment to ''Galactica'' was as ''punishment''. Therefore, any request to the Colonial Fleet for personnel transfers would have likely been railroaded, simply out of spite and politics -- and logically, you don't move junior officers. You might move Tigh as well, but not Gaeta, Tyrol, or Boomer. It simply wouldn't happen. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 21:18, 6 February 2008 (CST)
 
::::Loyalty can go both ways -- "follow you through hell and high water" -- they could have followed him on their own.  They certainly have strong enough attachments and allegiances, more out of respect for the man and not just the rank.  And since following a disgraced commander to a soon-to-be-mothballed battlestar is conceivably a low-prestige posting, I doubt there was much competition.-- [[User:Fredmdbud|Fredmdbud]] 21:28, 6 February 2008 (CST)
 
::::I disagree ... Adama did not botch the mission, rather the mission did not turn out as planned, and Adama took the fall, probably set up as the patsy as Roslin suggests.  And like a good soldier, Adama fell on his sword for executing an ill-advised and provocative mission.  But my main point (about the plausibility) still stands, his crew could have chosen to stick with him from one post to another, if he would have them along.  Sometimes we make way too many assumptions, and similar to nature, fandom often hates the absence of neatly-fiitting facts ...-- [[User:Fredmdbud|Fredmdbud]] 21:38, 6 February 2008 (CST)
 

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